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      <title>Re: (rant) UPS</title>
      <description>I&amp;#8217;ve been living under the impression that he already is&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Post updated by &lt;a target='_blank' href="http://antibox.net/users/sam"&gt;sam&lt;/a&gt; on 2008/08/11 14:39&lt;/em&gt;</description>
      <author>sam</author>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:38:58 -0700</pubDate>
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      <description>Haha&amp;#8230; that audio recording said no such thing, though I&amp;#8217;m sure you&amp;#8217;re right.  That&amp;#8217;s two things you&amp;#8217;ve answered for me that &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; couldn&amp;#8217;t.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
You should be the &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CEO&lt;/span&gt; of &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt;.</description>
      <author>julie</author>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:53:15 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: (rant) UPS</title>
      <description>Helpful hint:  You can also push &amp;#8220;0&amp;#8221; at any point to speak with a real person.  :D</description>
      <author>atyra</author>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 12:36:01 -0700</pubDate>
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      <description>That makes much more sense now, Andy.  I was so confused..&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
But yes, the delivery was fast for sure, I just resent that the huge pickup facility they have is so far out of reach for me down here in Uptown.  And their automated phone system.  But as long as you say something unintelligible to the machine voice three times in a row, they&amp;#8217;ll route you to a real person :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Zach told me when he got home that I could just sign the little notice deal and they would leave it at my door, so now I&amp;#8217;m going to call and change it again if that&amp;#8217;s the case.  I don&amp;#8217;t want to pay an extra $5 and we unfortunately have no buzzing system in this little fourplex.</description>
      <author>julie</author>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 04:53:26 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: (rant) UPS</title>
      <description>Blast. :(&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I always picked up my &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; shipments from the big &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; facility near the quarry, they never charged me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I should also defend &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8217;s rapid delivery of all of my computer stuff without a scratch&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
But yes your situation is unpleasant at least :/&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I think if you leave a note you may be able to convince them to leave it at your door &amp;#8211; that&amp;#8217;s how I&amp;#8217;ve mostly been operating (well, they call my phone and I buzz them into the building, but I&amp;#8217;m still not home..)</description>
      <author>sam</author>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:38:51 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: (rant) UPS</title>
      <description>I used to work at a &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; store so I have some understanding of how they got here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; Store used to be Mailboxes, Etc., a franchise operation that made a high margin on &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt;/Fedex Services as well as packaging, copying, personal mailboxes, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; acquired Mailboxes in 2002 (I think) and rebranded the franchise.  But that&amp;#8217;s about all you can do with a franchise unless you plan to buy all the owners out.  With over 3k locations (again, I think) this would have been a huge expenditure.  And what the hell does &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; know about running a retail location anyway?  (Answer:  Zero)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So, the individual owners cope with the brand change and continue to own the stores.  They make a smaller commission now on &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; shipments, are no longer allowed to ship things FedEx (obviously) and so really came out with a pretty raw deal unless the new brand increased their volume.  Most of the owners I know are bailing, so I don&amp;#8217;t think it went well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So, they need to recoup the costs of any work they do, which includes being a drop point for &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; shipments.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Now, &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; could pay the owners every time they do this, but I&amp;#8217;m sure they regard the $5 the owners charge you as a convenience charge and have no problem not absorbing that cost.  On the other hand, experiences like this clearly hurt the brand.  On the other other hand, you don&amp;#8217;t have any other shipping choices that are going to work out any better.  :)</description>
      <author>atyra</author>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:06:51 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: (rant) UPS</title>
      <description>There&amp;#8217;s a saga to this? Either way, that sucks.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Gotta hate bureaucratic shit like that.</description>
      <author>cameron</author>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:38:03 -0700</pubDate>
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      <title>(rant) UPS</title>
      <description>I was supposed to have my new &amp;#38; awesome Keen sandals delivered today and of course I was not home when &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; got here.  Their pick up location is a light year away and impossible to reach without a car, so I called to see if there was anywhere closer.  They say sure, the &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; Store nearby, we&amp;#8217;ll send it there, call and let them know so they don&amp;#8217;t refuse it on Monday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I call and the meanie there tells me it&amp;#8217;l lbe a $5 charge.  Uh, what?  &amp;#8220;We&amp;#8217;re separate from them, they&amp;#8217;re delivery and we&amp;#8217;re retail and the charge is $5.&amp;#8221;  Unfortunately no one mentioned when they arranged the change that it would cost me extra money.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Bah.  I was just really looking forward to using those this weekend.   Now I have to wait until Monday and pay them an extra $5.   This is par for the course however, in the Me vs. &lt;span class="caps"&gt;UPS&lt;/span&gt; saga.</description>
      <author>julie</author>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:49:25 -0700</pubDate>
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